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Damn they even got the justice system on par with how the gov run things today lol. People with power, or people with friends with power always have their way, Shit like this never go good in reality.

RentNoGirlfriend • 2 years ago

Idk where you live, but in my country there's pretty much no amount of power, money and connections that would allow anyone to pull such moves. Or, at the very least, not lastingly.

You must watch social media right, how many injustice acts formed around videos on the internet. You right IDK where you live, but shit like this happens, or at the very least just not lastingly known to the public eyes, if you catch what I mean.

RentNoGirlfriend • 2 years ago

Assuming I understood you correctly, I have 3 remarks:
1) I get the feeling you're changing the claim. Either you talk about the justice system as a whole like you did in your first comment or you talk about some unspecified anecdote on social media which you might or might not have a full understanding of
2) I live in italy and although it's not a perfect system, if a judge tried to prosecute anyone without evidence they would get removed from their position, have their career destroyed, get massively fined and possibly face jail time
3) How can you say "shit like this happens, or at the very least just not lastingly known to the public eyes" about something you also claim is circulating on social media? Doesn't make any sense

I mean do I have to go in full detail that yes " shit like this happens " in the real world. I mean I get you trying to analyze this from a logical stand point, like " no no shit like this just doesn't happen in the real world " . I get what you mean the judge just laying down the sentence on him without hardly in evidence stacked up against him isn't allowed, and yes everything you said bout a judge is true. Perhaps I should I have mentioned it in as yes there are corrupt officials, judges, police, etc... That may get bride, or if its in their mutual benefit sway their sentence in this manner. When I said " not lastingly to the public eyes " I mean corrupt officials having the power in position of going off the records off the books, until their found out and then it get known to public eyes by getting recorded, and going up on social media. Also no no I'm not changing the claim i'm talking bout the justice system as a whole cause there are holes, dark holes corruption in the justice system.

TheMMSpirit • 2 years ago

The US is very different than Italy then. First, when you get arrested you get sent to a jail where you wait until you get a bail hearing. Police only need to provide an explanation for their actions in writing. Then you get a phone call.

If you don't have enough money, you wait months for a trial. If you don't have anyone to bail you out, you wait months for a trial. It doesn't matter if you have an explanation or anything - in US law, police can arrest you without fault as long as there is "probable cause" or some sort of lawbreaking involved. Even an accusation of speeding. A judge can simply cite probable cause and convict you without explanation to anyone.

Most people do get pressured by a prosecutor who offers them a plea bargain, to plead guilty to disorderly conduct or something just so they don't lose their homes, job, car, ect.

I got arrested once for pulling a gun on someone who was being threatening. Out the next morning on bail, charges dropped. So I learned how it works. Poor people or those without influence get treated very harshly in US justice system.

RentNoGirlfriend • 2 years ago

What does that have to do with anything? I wasn't arguing in favour of the US judicial system, so if you wanna criticize it be my guest. My point was that unless someone is from an massively corrupt country they cannot make a claim such as:

they even got the justice system on par with how the gov run things today lol

Besides, I don't think your experience proves your point. It's not a matter of being poor or rich, if you point a gun at someone then you deserve to spend at the very least a night in a cell. Don't you agree?

TheMMSpirit • 2 years ago

I don't, actually. Here in the US many states have stand your ground laws that authorize the use of deadly force for any threat. If someone attacks you or a credible threat, it is a perfectly legal act to kill them. In my state, we have stand your ground laws and also castle doctrine - if someone threatens you in your home, vehicle, or place of business, it is assumed lawful to kill them. In my case, I was in my own home thus all charges dropped and expunged.

In my opinion, if some scumbag wants to attack others or break into a house, the world is better off when they're shot.

RentNoGirlfriend • 2 years ago

What even is this answer, you make the US seem like a third world country. I didn't ask you about your stance on self defense, nor the legality of it. If you pull a gun on someone you should spend some time in jail, at the very least until we know you're not dangerous. If you disagree then you're scary and perhaps you shouldn't own a gun.
Whatever, this wasn't even my main point. I think we pretty much agree that the US judiciary system is orders of magnitude better than what we see in this episode. For instance now you brag about the rule of law, which is something Cheng Feng could only wish for.

Bruh there's corruption in the gov my claim stands " shit like this happens "

RentNoGirlfriend • 2 years ago

There's corruption in pretty much any government, this doesn't mean everywhere people get convicted without evidence, murdered and covered up. Idk where you're from but in most of the western world what we see in this episode almost never happens, and when it does it eventually gets found out.

Trust powerful people in position if they corrupt like that judge in the episode, they can make " shit like this happen" send a hitman to jail or prison to take out a rat, or even witness protection. Like you said " when it does it eventually get found out" ( eventually) off the books, off the records until somebody founds out the truth making it known to the public eyes on news, and social media. Until then they can get away with stuff like this, now ok to some lesser degree not exactly how it's played out in the episode, but murder cover ups, and scandals like this where they can send somebody to their death. How many times people end up going missing come on now.

RentNoGirlfriend • 2 years ago

I don't think it's as easy and as frequent as you make it sound.
You understand the consequences of getting found out, right? To pull off something like this one needs to convince several high ranking (and highly controlled) people to put their whole career on the line, and also pay them enough (when they're already pretty wealthy given their line of work) through untraceable means to make it worth risking jailtime.
Besides, what sort of criminal is worth that much? Perhaps someone important like Epstein, but even then it still made big news everywhere, and it's incredibly rare.

Trust I'm just stating somebody with that influence in power can probably pull some shit like this off, well aware of the immense risk factor here it would take for somebody with the resources, money, and influence. I'm not saying this some easy cake walk now, just saying it could be done. Press somebody long enough and send them over the edge you don't know what gov officials would do when back into a corner knowing they could lose everything, and their world crumbling down around them.

MR STOLEN Donghua • 2 years ago

I'm very shocked there's law here wow like that's new from these Chinese anime 😳

Aerlis Ambrosius • 2 years ago

Having the Sect Law Enforcement Elder be corrupt and go after the mc has occurred in literally every single cultivation novel I have read. It is a trope so common. Other common tropes are meeting the poor grandpa travelling physician and his cute grand daughter who turn out to be extremely important later, she almost always has a powerful elder brother who was a hero but he was killed, while cute the grand daughter is never a love interest, then there is the oh so common fiancé betrayal, and as we have seen in the last episode - having a ghost tutor - especially for alchemy. All these tropes and more are in nearly every single cultivation novel. It gets really repetitive after a while. Pretty soon once a new character is introduced you already know exactly what their role is or will be.

MR STOLEN Donghua • 2 years ago

I see in most shows they just do whatever they liked no law or whatsoever, revenge in public and execution of families even taking lives of kings, killing sect members looting dead bodies and taking their stuff and killing prince's etc 😂 😂 😂

TheMMSpirit • 2 years ago

Well, in Jianghu there is the notion of the strong devours the weak. In the cultivator fiction, might makes right. So, normal people must avoid offending those stronger than them. In these novels, snatching women if you want, snatching property, killing someone who offends you, all that is normal. A city lord often tries to enforce law to avoid large scale fights, but businesses, sects, and clans rely upon their own members for policing.

Thus, a young cultivator likes to join a sect for protection. Being a member of a sect causes other stronger than they to hesitate before bullying them, besides the cultivation methods and resources they get. The greater the status and usefulness to the sect, the greater the treatment and sect's protection.

As long as it is an unimportant person, a greater sect member can do pretty much as they please within the sect so long as it isn't too blatant. Why would an elder shelter someone without something in return? He'd better be a good disciple and get his master resources, or have family connections, or something like that if he wants to be safer.

Chen Feng should be strong enough to escape, unless they cripple his cultivation. I'm surprised they didn't do that, but then he is the MC. Who would stick out their neck for him if he was already crippled and forever useless.

Rama sad • 2 years ago

where is another 2 puppies? i see only one hatched> what happened to them? did they die in those eggs?

AuroraMooon • 1 year ago

What is the difference between these sects and the ‘demon’ sect. MC needs to stop relying on these sect but unfortunately he needs to boost his power and needs resources

AniMangaSensei • 1 year ago

Not in QinYuan sect, not in ZiYang..both are bully.and I can't understand they let them to kill each others inside the "school"/Sect